Terence McKenna - On Visible Language

2007molitva Says:

Aug 30, 2009 - thats not the point... plus bod language is subconcious 90 % of the time

bodyboarder79 Says:

Aug 31, 2009 - Now 2007moltiva, if you want to get into a debate concerning human perception and the possibility that humans may eventually learn how to interpret different sensory stimuli other than sight, sound, taste, smell and touch, I'm sure we're probably on the same page. Other than that, please don't condescend to me claiming that I have somehow missed the point. It should be remembered, visible language is all that deaf people have. By the way, you spelled 'subconscious' incorrectly.

warmpoop Says:

Sep 1, 2009 - Sign language is closer to T.M.'s point than the more subtle "body language". The octopus analogy makes sense, to me, be because it suggests a new amplified sensitivity in future human communications. Deaf people without a doubt have lighted pathways in the brain that most hearing people do not fully develop. The octopus is reading light waves, perhaps, and patterns in light with more intense meaning than a hearing human would read, for instance, my facial expression or my posture.

warmpoop Says:

Sep 1, 2009 - Those things only suggest ideas. T.M.'s lighted octopus reads the lights in another octopus the way I would read a letter from my mother detailing directions to the family reunion next weekend. It's like being able to read morse code from a blinking light X a million or something.

warmpoop Says:

Sep 1, 2009 - Those things only suggest ideas. T.M.'s lighted octopus reads the lights in another octopus the way I would read a letter from my mother detailing directions to the family reunion next weekend. It's like being able to read morse code from a blinking light X a million or something.

steve4ha Says:

Sep 12, 2009 - Sign or body language isn't the same as if you could change the pigment in your skin to communicate better with another race, there would be sort of an unspoken communication of familiarity.

weirdobeaver Says:

Sep 13, 2009 - what a crazy vid! deep though, though

ronza Says:

Sep 25, 2009 - ok........ but the ablitiy to speak and understand metaphor is surly a form of visual language on par with a higher level communication? to communicate deep meanings through the use of metaphor is something terence is a professional at.

Perdurabo418 Says:

Oct 3, 2009 - John Lilly was once asked about McKenna's theories about langauge. His reply was something like "nonsense."

XxMisanthropy Says:

Oct 12, 2009 - listening to him speak always makes a shiver run down my spine

Comcouveflor Says:

Nov 10, 2009 - Sign language is a language still - coded meaning. Meaning is constituted by the understanding of implications: "What do you mean?" or "I see what you mean" we say. Language is a means of encoding it, allowing for its "transmission". This implies an emitter and receptor - a matching internal dictionary is required, and yet it still lies victim to their differing perception. To see meaning is sort of an exteriorization of the unconscious/mind, where its constituiting information lies.

Comcouveflor Says:

Nov 10, 2009 - (Cont) It'd be like seeing INNER music. He means not to hear nor see language, but meaning - the octopi tale is the closest to conceive of what that'd be like in a living being, but still isn't it; it's a physical representation of what each means.This world is also made of language in the sense that space is the medium through which it is expressed - spoken language as sound, or physical forms which require extremities/outlines, etc, to be distinct; or else, everything would be everywhere.

TNMEBDlove Says:

Nov 29, 2009 - We have a form of this in the interpretation of body language through facial gestures and so forth. I experienced a new form of communication recently in deep meditation where a row of panels appeared before my mind's eye. The panels were gray and had uniform images which changed in response to my thoughts. They actually changed in answer to my thoughts. It was absolutely amazing. Hands clapping signified that my thoughts were correct in relation to the images. Wonderful language.

Manwithcam Says:

Jan 18, 2010 - @TNMEBDlove On a 4+ grams shroom trip the other day I encountered what seemed to be extraterrestrial intelligences which spoke to me in deep drones, and I was somehow able to understand their meaning whenever they did it, as if they telepathically conveyed the thought while simultaneously droning from their mouths. Craziest trip ever.

drcar Says:

Jan 20, 2010 - just curious, were you alone, in a meditating setting? I've eaten 5.5 grams with company of others on more and less doses and all I came to was that nothing that I ever knew was real, and that it couldn't be and if I were to feel the presence of extraterrestrials I probably would have shunned that as mart of the matrix I felt I was apart of. any reply back would be appreciated.

Manwithcam Says:

Jan 20, 2010 - I was alone during the entire trip, and laying down with eyes closed listening to music during the peak. I've tripped a few times before on shrooms, but I'd never dosed over 3.5. A bit over 4 grams was a big change, and the fact that I mixed two different types may have added to the intensity.

drcar Says:

Jan 21, 2010 - thanks for replying, I may just have to try this.

420moforelzapoo Says:

Feb 24, 2010 - octopi, indeed, all cephalolopods are our brothers. Even the prokaryotes are our brothers. Peace and love.

optimatom Says:

Mar 27, 2010 - i think they can understand what your thinking. and when you think something crazy about the universe or our heritage and get butterflys in your stomach its hard not to feel a scence unexplainable joy. nothing compares..

AClarke2007 Says:

May 6, 2010 - @fluxogram Utilising your own Brain juices far outweighs a quick fix - it just takes too long without a guide. I believe he could be a prophet to a lot of people because hisfour-dimensional semantics ratchet-effect their desires.

survivingtodie Says:

Jun 10, 2010 - i think its not really worth trying to understand what he is trying to say, but rather create your own meaning of the words. we can all access our minds eye through meditation, psychadelics, and entheogens but the truth is it never really goes anywhere. if you can train your brain to be able to "trip" whenever you want, you can not only find the answers to your questions, but realize that the question wasnt worth being asked in the first place.

wterdog Says:

Jul 1, 2010 - yeah squids do that because they have less evolved depth than we do. Why would we ever strive to regress and fold ourselfs up? We dont communicate this way because we have evolved a neo cortex and have the ability to imagine complex images, we dont have to show anything we dont want to show and that is the new addition to our abilities after transcending the disabilities of visual communication, all the while including the gifts "communication" can give us.

BeavisNacho Says:

Jul 23, 2010 - Humans can do this to a certain extent as in when someone gives you a look and they don't have to say anything.

MrDieter182 Says:

Jul 26, 2010 - beautiful words, i agree. and i know we will be abel to do this in about a year or 2... we now already can read, i know this is the start of the learning a visabel language. think about it :)

Stonefactor Says:

Jul 30, 2010 - Wow!